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From: German Vidal <gvidal_at_dsic.upv.es>

Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:53:27 +0100

On 06/01/2011, at 21:41, Sergio Antoy wrote:

*> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011, Michael Hanus wrote:
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*>
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*>> Wolfgang Lux wrote:
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*>>> Thinking a bit more about it, I finally see a reason for keeping the
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*>>> linearity restriction: Pattern matching in Curry (as in any other lazy
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*>>> language) causes evaluation to head normal form, i.e., arguments are
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*>>> evaluated just as far as necessary to make their shape equivalent to
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*>>> the pattern. This is no longer the case with non-linear patterns. Each
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*>>
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*>> This is true but it is questionable whether one really
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*>> reasons about a program in such individual steps
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*>> like hnf computations. For instance, the work on the
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*>> rewriting logic CRWL shows that a programmer might better
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*>> reason in terms of call-by-value evaluations
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*>> to understand the effect of nondeterministic computations.
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*>> Laziness is a good vehicle to ensure completeness of computations,
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*>> but it is not easy to think in this evaluation order.
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*>>
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*>> As a solution to this difficulty, I can imagine that
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*>> a compiler issues warnings on demand for non-linear patterns,
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*>> like it issue warnings for variables with a single occurrence.
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*>
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*> I like the idea of a warning.
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Yes, warnings might be useful. Nevertheless, I don't really see a

problem with laziness here. If one clarifies that non-linear patterns

are just syntactic sugar for an equality constraint between arguments,

it should be clear that evaluation to normal form is required; actually,

I think that no confusion can arise since non-linear patterns are not

allowed in lazy functional languages like Haskell.

*>>> There is also one point in your proposal that needs further
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*>>> clarification: What about function rules with (constraint) guards? f x
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*>>> x | g = e seems to have at least two possible translations: Either
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*>>> sequential
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*>>> f x y | x=:=y &> g = e
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*>>> or concurrent
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*>>> f x y | x=:=y & g = e
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*>>
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*>> Good point, but I have no preference or good arguments for
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*>> one of them. Intuitively, I'd prefer the sequential interpretation
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*>> since the non-linearity condition belongs to the matching,
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*>> i.e., it should be checked before any other guard or right-hand
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*>> side computations takes place.
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*>
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*> Are there some plausible examples where there is a difference
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*> which might help choosing either one of the options?
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I also prefer the sequential one. E.g., given a function like

f x x | g Zero = Foo

g Zero = g Zero

g One = success

and the first translation

f x y | x =:= y & g Zero = Foo

a call like (f Zero One) might enter an infinite loop if the considered

selection strategy is not fair and always selects the second constraint

in (Zero =:= One & g Zero). This is not what one would expect here but

an immediate failure of unification between Zero and One.

Similarly, given a call like (f (g Zero) (g Zero)), one would expect an

infinite failure but a fair selection strategy will give rise to a

finite failure.

So I think that &> is more reasonable.

Best wishes,

German

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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:53:27 +0100

On 06/01/2011, at 21:41, Sergio Antoy wrote:

Yes, warnings might be useful. Nevertheless, I don't really see a

problem with laziness here. If one clarifies that non-linear patterns

are just syntactic sugar for an equality constraint between arguments,

it should be clear that evaluation to normal form is required; actually,

I think that no confusion can arise since non-linear patterns are not

allowed in lazy functional languages like Haskell.

I also prefer the sequential one. E.g., given a function like

f x x | g Zero = Foo

g Zero = g Zero

g One = success

and the first translation

f x y | x =:= y & g Zero = Foo

a call like (f Zero One) might enter an infinite loop if the considered

selection strategy is not fair and always selects the second constraint

in (Zero =:= One & g Zero). This is not what one would expect here but

an immediate failure of unification between Zero and One.

Similarly, given a call like (f (g Zero) (g Zero)), one would expect an

infinite failure but a fair selection strategy will give rise to a

finite failure.

So I think that &> is more reasonable.

Best wishes,

German

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