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From: Sergio Antoy <antoy_at_cs.pdx.edu>

Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:36:20 -0800

Hi Wolfgang,

You raise some interesting and quite difficult questions and I am

afraid I have only some very partial answers.

*> The encapsulated search was introduced into Curry in order to encapsulate
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*> non-deterministic computations and allow to use different search strategies.
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*> However, in the presence of sharing not all non-determinism can be
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*> encapsulated. Consider the following simple program:
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*>
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*> coin = 0
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*> coin = 1
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*>
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*> main = findall (\x -> x=:=y) where y = coin
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*>
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*> where findall computes and unpacks all solutions of a search
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*> goal with a depth first strategy. In a system based on pure term
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*> rewriting, evaluating the goal main would yield the list [0,1].
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How would you define findall with "pure term rewriting"?

*> In Curry we must not evaluate the non-local shared application for y inside
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*> the encapsulated search but must evaluate it in the global search space. This
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*> is similar to a non-local variable which must not be bound inside an
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*> encapsulated search. Thus, the non-determinism in the function coin
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*> ``escapes'' from the encapsulated search and we get two solutions for the
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*> goal main, namely [0] and [1].
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This is what you should get. Intuitively, if you evaluate "coin"

in a program, you should get either 0 or 1, but not both.

Thus findall should give you either [0] or [1].

*> A slight variation of the main function shows better why we must not evaluate
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*> non-local applications in an encapsulated search:
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*>
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*> main' = filter (/= y) (findall (\x -> x=:=y)) where y = coin
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*>
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*> The only sensible solution I can think of is two times the empty list.
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I would prefer once (one time) only. This come from

main' = filter (/= y) (findall (\x -> x=:=y)) where y = 0

and likewise for 1.

*> Maybe this was already obvious to you, but the report is totally ignorant
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*> about this. IMHO it should at least include a comment about this (writing
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*> down a semantics seems quite tricky and is impossible in the framework
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*> used by appendix D as there is no explicit notion of sharing).
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*>
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*> This problem can also creep in if you are used to higher-order programming.
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*> For instance the following program will not compute a list of all solutions
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*> for the function coin but -- like the initial example -- compute both
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*> solutions non-deterministically (except if you expect the compiler to
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*> perform some global sharing analysis and detect that the first argument of
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*> the function same is never going to be shared).
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*>
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*> coin = 0
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*> coin = 1
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*>
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*> main = findall (same coin)
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Here I lost you. How (or where) do you define "same"?

I think that some difficulty would be eliminated by considering

two findalls, the usual one and another for non-deterministic

computations, say nd-findall. Thus

findall (\x -> x=:=y) where y = coin

evaluates, non-deterministically, to either [0] or [1], whereas

nd-findall (\x -> x=:=y) where y = coin

evaluates, deterministically, to [0,1].

Sergio

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Portland State University

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Portland, OR 97207

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fax +1 (503) 725-3211

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Received on Mi Jan 09 2002 - 08:55:08 CET

Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:36:20 -0800

Hi Wolfgang,

You raise some interesting and quite difficult questions and I am

afraid I have only some very partial answers.

How would you define findall with "pure term rewriting"?

This is what you should get. Intuitively, if you evaluate "coin"

in a program, you should get either 0 or 1, but not both.

Thus findall should give you either [0] or [1].

I would prefer once (one time) only. This come from

main' = filter (/= y) (findall (\x -> x=:=y)) where y = 0

and likewise for 1.

Here I lost you. How (or where) do you define "same"?

I think that some difficulty would be eliminated by considering

two findalls, the usual one and another for non-deterministic

computations, say nd-findall. Thus

findall (\x -> x=:=y) where y = coin

evaluates, non-deterministically, to either [0] or [1], whereas

nd-findall (\x -> x=:=y) where y = coin

evaluates, deterministically, to [0,1].

Sergio

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Sergio Antoy

Dept. of Computer Science

Portland State University

P.O.Box 751

Portland, OR 97207

voice +1 (503) 725-4036

fax +1 (503) 725-3211

internet antoy_at_cs.pdx.edu

WWW http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~antoy

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