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From: Herbert Kuchen <kuchen_at_uni-muenster.de>

Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:40:16 +0100

Michael Hanus wrote:

*> Wolfgang Lux wrote:
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*> > First I do not see the reason why you want to restrict the
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expression

*> > inside a
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*> >
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*> > let ... free in exp
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*> >
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*> > to the type of constraint.
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*>
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*> This restriction is due to semantical reasons. Since "let...free"
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*> corresponds to existential quantification, it is natural to
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*> have it in constraints, but I do not know what is the semantics
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*> of a term like "there exists an x such that x+2".
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I agree that forcing exp to be of type Constraint is probably

too restrictive. It might be interesting to allow

let ... free in exp

also with other types of exp, e.g. in

let x free in parent x

parent Bill = Maud

parent Maud = Jack

it could be used to generate possible values.

*> Sven Panne wrote:
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*>
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*>
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*> > [...]
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*> > With your new proposal things get really bad, however, because now
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*> > there is no syntactic distinction between the two cases. E.g.
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consider:

*> >
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*> > f x = x <= 2
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*> > g x = x == 1
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*> > h x | f x = 1
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*> > | g x = 2
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*> >
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*> > The result of the reduction h 1 will always be 1. Now if I change
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the

*> > definition of g to
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*> > g x = x =:= 1
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*> > (and this might be in a completly different part of the program) I
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now

*> > get as result of h 1 the disjunction 1 | 2. (With the old syntax I
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*> > would have got a type error telling me that g x is not of type
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Bool.)

*>
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*> IMHO, that's not a problem.
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*>
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I also think that this not a serious problem, and

that it is better than a special syntax for constraints.

*> > So I would suggest either dropping the change in semantics for
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(only)

*> > boolean guards in a conditional expression or still use braces
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around a

*> > constraint expression the guard of a conditional expression. The
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latter

*> > will not conflict with Haskell, as a record can never appear in a
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guard

*> > expression.
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*>
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*> No! Please nuke the {...} syntax. I've never really understood the
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*> difference between c and {c}, where c::Constraint.
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*>
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I agree with Sven.

Herbert Kuchen

Received on Fr Okt 23 1998 - 14:48:00 CEST

Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:40:16 +0100

Michael Hanus wrote:

expression

I agree that forcing exp to be of type Constraint is probably

too restrictive. It might be interesting to allow

let ... free in exp

also with other types of exp, e.g. in

let x free in parent x

parent Bill = Maud

parent Maud = Jack

it could be used to generate possible values.

consider:

the

now

Bool.)

I also think that this not a serious problem, and

that it is better than a special syntax for constraints.

(only)

around a

latter

guard

I agree with Sven.

Herbert Kuchen

Received on Fr Okt 23 1998 - 14:48:00 CEST

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