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From: Philip Wadler <wadler_at_research.bell-labs.com>

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:24:51 -0400

Thanks to Michael for his two examples. I'm convinced by his argument,

echoed by John, that constraints are a `killer app' for LP/LFP.

However, I have a quibble with his first example.

Beware TC! It's easy to give a Too Cute example: one that looks

marvelous, but doesn't generalise to the Typical Case. Here are two

examples, one from Lazy FP and one from LP/LFP, and both coincidentally

sharing the initials TC.

Lazy FP example: Transitive Closure. Represent a relation from A to A

by a function f :: A -> [A]. Then the transitive closure

(tc f) :: A -> [A] is computed by

tc f x = xs where xs = nub (x : map f xs)

where nub :: [A] -> [A] removes duplicates. This is fine if (tc f x)

yields an infinite list, but fails in the Typical Case that it yields

a finite list, since the list terminates in bottom rather than nil.

To handle finite results properly requires an entirely different

structure, that explicitly passes a list of visited nodes.

LP/LFP example: Type Checking. Michael's example is fine if we

represent polymorphism by a meta-variable, but fails in the Typical

Case that we represent polymorphism explicitly. For example, say our

term and type languages are extended as follows

data Expr = ... | Let String Expr Expr

data Texpr = ... | TVar String | TAll String Texpr

and we wish to apply Milner's algorithm W. The only way I know to

program this Typical Case is either to encode unification explicitly,

or to use a non-declarative primitive (Gille Kahn used a clever trick

of this sort in Mentor).

Cheers, -- P

Received on Mo Jul 07 1997 - 18:26:00 CEST

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:24:51 -0400

Thanks to Michael for his two examples. I'm convinced by his argument,

echoed by John, that constraints are a `killer app' for LP/LFP.

However, I have a quibble with his first example.

Beware TC! It's easy to give a Too Cute example: one that looks

marvelous, but doesn't generalise to the Typical Case. Here are two

examples, one from Lazy FP and one from LP/LFP, and both coincidentally

sharing the initials TC.

Lazy FP example: Transitive Closure. Represent a relation from A to A

by a function f :: A -> [A]. Then the transitive closure

(tc f) :: A -> [A] is computed by

tc f x = xs where xs = nub (x : map f xs)

where nub :: [A] -> [A] removes duplicates. This is fine if (tc f x)

yields an infinite list, but fails in the Typical Case that it yields

a finite list, since the list terminates in bottom rather than nil.

To handle finite results properly requires an entirely different

structure, that explicitly passes a list of visited nodes.

LP/LFP example: Type Checking. Michael's example is fine if we

represent polymorphism by a meta-variable, but fails in the Typical

Case that we represent polymorphism explicitly. For example, say our

term and type languages are extended as follows

data Expr = ... | Let String Expr Expr

data Texpr = ... | TVar String | TAll String Texpr

and we wish to apply Milner's algorithm W. The only way I know to

program this Typical Case is either to encode unification explicitly,

or to use a non-declarative primitive (Gille Kahn used a clever trick

of this sort in Mentor).

Cheers, -- P

Received on Mo Jul 07 1997 - 18:26:00 CEST

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